South "Unwittingly" Recognized by Lincoln
As I sit here, at 2 am, because it is impossible to sleep with God’s fireworks displays, in Texas, I was struck by the lightening of a thought who’s answer has been glaring at us for over 140 years!
Lincoln did recognize the CSA as a sovereign nation! He didn’t realize he did it, because he acted in a fit of anger but, he did it none the less!
The following is an excerpt from MindSpring.com;
Clement Laird Vallandigham, a former Ohio Congressman from Dayton, Ohio was largely responsible for a growing and vocal opposition to the Civil War. The reportedly handsome young lawyer, son of a Presbyterian minister, was the undisputed leader of the Copperheads ("Peace Democrats") in the Northwest. He was also a notorious, thinly-veiled, Southern sympathizer who made speeches, to anyone who would listen, calling the war, "wicked and cruel," and which was quite obvious to all. Then however, Vallandigham strayed beyond the realm of reality and suggested that the Republicans only wanted to end slavery to further their quest for a dictatorship. The government had little tolerance for such reckless and inflammatory remarks. Unfortunately for Vallandigham, "treason" was then a clay-like concept that would be molded to suit the needs of the war effort.
On May 5, 1863, a Company of the 115th Ohio Volunteer Infantry, dispatched to Dayton, Ohio by special train, broke into Vallandigham's house at 3:00 A.M. and arrested him. The former Congressman was taken from his home in a nightshirt and quickly transported to Cincinnati where he would be tried by a military commission the following day on charges of "treasonable utterances." Riots broke out in Dayton in response to the arrest, with fires destroying an entire city block. Troops from Columbus and Cincinnati were brought in and martial law declared. Vallandigham was soon convicted of aiding the Confederates, and on May 19, 1863 President Lincoln ordered Secretary of War Stanton to see to it that Vallandigham was banished to "beyond the military lines of the United States and not be permitted to return, under threat of arrest."
Federal troops in Tennessee turned Vallandigham over to the Confederate Army on May 25, 1863. In June, President Davis of the Confederate States, having no use for Vallandigham, orders him to Wilmington, North Carolina to be guarded as an "alien enemy." that same month.
It is odd how rabid unionist history words its utterances! “The government had little tolerance for such reckless and inflammatory remarks.” Are they implying the government is a reasoning human that makes informed decisions or are they anointing Lincoln as the government? I suggest the latter.
In any case, by deporting Vallandigham to the CSA, Lincoln recognized the CSA as a sovereign nation. You cannot deport a citizen to Limbo because it does not exist for the living. I cannot speak for the dead.
Deporting a natural born citizen is unconstitutional and illegal. Oh well, what is one more “small” crime against the constitution when we have so many great ones on the books?
Lincoln’s rage blinded him to the consequences of his acts. He wasn’t prosecuting the war to “Save the union.” He was prosecuting the war to preserve the territorial integrity of the union’s empire!
Upon defeat of the Armies of the CSA, a peace treaty should have been offered because there is no constitutional provision to annex a nation. Oh, the CSA wasn’t really a sovereign nation at the end of the war but simple rebellious states. Let’s see how that squares with our primary founding document, the Declaration of Independence.
The second paragraph of that hallowed document states;
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
We also have the right to withdraw from the authority of said government, leaving it intact for those who desire to be governed in that fashion.
Three united States Presidents either tacitly recognized, or through deliberate acts recognized the CSA as a separate, sovereign nation.
James Buchanan was President when South Carolina seceded. He faunched and fumed about the secessions but did nothing to stop them nor did he send troops to quell a “rebellion” thus, tacitly recognizing the Confederacy.
For all the hell Lincoln put the South through, the fool legally recognized the Confederacy as a sovereign nation by deporting Vallandigham to CSA jurisdiction!
Andrew Johnson furnished the final official act that recognized the CSA as a sovereign nation. He directed Major General Herron to send a treaty delegation to General Stand Waite CSA to negotiate a cease fire treaty. This was accomplished by his appointment of Sent. Colonel A.C. Mathews and W.H. Vance as negotiators. The cease fire treaty was signed June 23, 1865. Although the treaty is silent on recognition, the fact that General Waite was the last armed force of the CSA in the field and the government had been routed and/or captured it befell him the duty of signing the treaty in the stead for the government of the CSA. That act sealed the fact that the CSA government and the nation existed as a legal, sovereign nation.
All the indignities that have since followed have been under occupation and martial law, regardless of the presences of the Army in the streets or not.
Lincoln did recognize the CSA as a sovereign nation! He didn’t realize he did it, because he acted in a fit of anger but, he did it none the less!
The following is an excerpt from MindSpring.com;
Clement Laird Vallandigham, a former Ohio Congressman from Dayton, Ohio was largely responsible for a growing and vocal opposition to the Civil War. The reportedly handsome young lawyer, son of a Presbyterian minister, was the undisputed leader of the Copperheads ("Peace Democrats") in the Northwest. He was also a notorious, thinly-veiled, Southern sympathizer who made speeches, to anyone who would listen, calling the war, "wicked and cruel," and which was quite obvious to all. Then however, Vallandigham strayed beyond the realm of reality and suggested that the Republicans only wanted to end slavery to further their quest for a dictatorship. The government had little tolerance for such reckless and inflammatory remarks. Unfortunately for Vallandigham, "treason" was then a clay-like concept that would be molded to suit the needs of the war effort.
On May 5, 1863, a Company of the 115th Ohio Volunteer Infantry, dispatched to Dayton, Ohio by special train, broke into Vallandigham's house at 3:00 A.M. and arrested him. The former Congressman was taken from his home in a nightshirt and quickly transported to Cincinnati where he would be tried by a military commission the following day on charges of "treasonable utterances." Riots broke out in Dayton in response to the arrest, with fires destroying an entire city block. Troops from Columbus and Cincinnati were brought in and martial law declared. Vallandigham was soon convicted of aiding the Confederates, and on May 19, 1863 President Lincoln ordered Secretary of War Stanton to see to it that Vallandigham was banished to "beyond the military lines of the United States and not be permitted to return, under threat of arrest."
Federal troops in Tennessee turned Vallandigham over to the Confederate Army on May 25, 1863. In June, President Davis of the Confederate States, having no use for Vallandigham, orders him to Wilmington, North Carolina to be guarded as an "alien enemy." that same month.
It is odd how rabid unionist history words its utterances! “The government had little tolerance for such reckless and inflammatory remarks.” Are they implying the government is a reasoning human that makes informed decisions or are they anointing Lincoln as the government? I suggest the latter.
In any case, by deporting Vallandigham to the CSA, Lincoln recognized the CSA as a sovereign nation. You cannot deport a citizen to Limbo because it does not exist for the living. I cannot speak for the dead.
Deporting a natural born citizen is unconstitutional and illegal. Oh well, what is one more “small” crime against the constitution when we have so many great ones on the books?
Lincoln’s rage blinded him to the consequences of his acts. He wasn’t prosecuting the war to “Save the union.” He was prosecuting the war to preserve the territorial integrity of the union’s empire!
Upon defeat of the Armies of the CSA, a peace treaty should have been offered because there is no constitutional provision to annex a nation. Oh, the CSA wasn’t really a sovereign nation at the end of the war but simple rebellious states. Let’s see how that squares with our primary founding document, the Declaration of Independence.
The second paragraph of that hallowed document states;
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
We also have the right to withdraw from the authority of said government, leaving it intact for those who desire to be governed in that fashion.
Three united States Presidents either tacitly recognized, or through deliberate acts recognized the CSA as a separate, sovereign nation.
James Buchanan was President when South Carolina seceded. He faunched and fumed about the secessions but did nothing to stop them nor did he send troops to quell a “rebellion” thus, tacitly recognizing the Confederacy.
For all the hell Lincoln put the South through, the fool legally recognized the Confederacy as a sovereign nation by deporting Vallandigham to CSA jurisdiction!
Andrew Johnson furnished the final official act that recognized the CSA as a sovereign nation. He directed Major General Herron to send a treaty delegation to General Stand Waite CSA to negotiate a cease fire treaty. This was accomplished by his appointment of Sent. Colonel A.C. Mathews and W.H. Vance as negotiators. The cease fire treaty was signed June 23, 1865. Although the treaty is silent on recognition, the fact that General Waite was the last armed force of the CSA in the field and the government had been routed and/or captured it befell him the duty of signing the treaty in the stead for the government of the CSA. That act sealed the fact that the CSA government and the nation existed as a legal, sovereign nation.
All the indignities that have since followed have been under occupation and martial law, regardless of the presences of the Army in the streets or not.








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